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Help with Identification of Heirloom Hamilton pocket watch

#1 Post by Mbertone » Fri Nov 11, 2022 12:01 pm

Hello Everyone,

I’m so happy to finally have my great grandfathers Hamilton pocket watch in my possession. After a recent trip to a jeweler to have it serviced, it’s back to ticking away like it was meant to! I plan to wear it often (I wear suits every day) and unfortunately I don’t know any of the model specifics. I know the obvious, and that it was given to my Great Grandpa April 10, 1950. It was awarded for saving a coworkers life in an electrical fire at the AC Delco plant in Flint, MI.

I’d also like to have any information on care and upkeep and had a couple specific questions.

I was shown how to wind (and not overwind) the watch. It seems to be keeping very accurate time, but recently I felt tension while winding that told me to stop and I only think I gave around 10 twists. I have a couple specific questions there.

-should I be leering it run completely down before winding it again, and then winding it fully? Is it bad to let it run until stopping, or is winding once every morning fine?
-the jewler said I could twist the crown either direction to wind but i notice significantly less tension one direction. Do both directions add power?
-I tread pressure (i bullies this means atmospheric) effects accuracy, should i be keeping out of my tighter-fitting sore pants and jeans?

Thank you for your interest and time, sincerely!
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Re: Help with Identification of Heirloom Hamilton pocket watch

#2 Post by SFC » Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:29 pm

Someone correct me if I am wrong. But I think the bow of the watch (the piece the chain is attached to) is not original to the watch. The bow is a good reference point to identify the model. There were quite a few Hamilton pocket watches from this era that look similar but the characteristics of the bow tell you what model it is... The model would have been a "name" assigned by Hamilton. A look at the 1950 catalog would help to narrow down the models this watch could have been (the case material will narrow down the options further).

The crown only winds in one direction. The direction you turn where you don't feel tension building up does not wind the watch. You can wind the watch whenever. You don't have to let the power run all the way down to re-wind it. In fact the watch will be more accurate when fully wound... so winding once in the morning is fine if it is your daily watch. The 921 movement is high quality and should be quite accurate. And lastly, put the watch where it is secure. A tight or loose pocket will not affect the timing.

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#3 Post by SFC » Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:30 pm

Also its fantastic to see someone enjoying a family heirloom. Wear it with pride 8-)

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#4 Post by retroworx » Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:53 am

Mbertone wrote:
Fri Nov 11, 2022 12:01 pm
-the jewler said I could twist the crown either direction to wind
I suspect that they meant that you can turn the crown in either direction to set the hands, not wind. . . .
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Re: Help with Identification of Heirloom Hamilton pocket watch

#5 Post by Mbertone » Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:01 pm

Thanks for the information and your time! You’ve got a great eye. The jeweler changed the bow (there's no story/it was with the watch 🤷🏻‍♂️) because he "really liked it a lot. I assume *someones* never seen The Antiques Roadshow!just haven't had a chance to havebit swapped back. I included a picture of it and a peak of it at a recent work event!
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Re: Help with Identification of Heirloom Hamilton pocket watch

#6 Post by SFC » Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:07 am

https://vintagewatchforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=142

Above is the link to the 1950 catalog.. if you scroll down to the pages where the pocket watches are shown you will find your watch. I believe it is a "Watt" model. If its 14k gold than it definitely is a match. Looking great with the classic Hamilton with you... I would be slightly cautious about changing the bow over just in case the original was swapped out for a reason other than aesthetics (worn out, damaged etc.). Its hard to tell in the pics. In other words, find someone who can take a look and has some experience with pocket watch to assess the condition of the part. Maybe the watchmaker who worked on the watch? And if your relative enjoyed the watch with the engraved bow it might be better to leave be ;)

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#7 Post by Mbertone » Wed Nov 16, 2022 2:41 pm

What a great resource! This matches up exactly with The watch’s history of use and what the jeweler just told me when I picked it up. Great Grandpa wore it every day and it was a fond memory for my mom. Not hard to imagine it taking some damage. When replacing it he did “add gold” and toa god look inside the bezel. He said it may have been swapped because the original broke or wore out. This is probably all also confirmed by the fact that this is not the original Crystal (I believe it was replaced with acrylic). I still have the work done and have the back up in an emergency and know to be extra careful with it and have the jewelers confidence it will be ok.
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Re: Help with Identification of Heirloom Hamilton pocket watch

#8 Post by SFC » Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:29 pm

I am fairly certain your "Watt" came with a glass crystal originally. By 1950 acrylic crystals had been around for a number of years... but fine pocket watches were still sold with glass crystals. Acrylic crystals were original on cheaper "dollar watches" even prior to the 1950's.

I'm impressed at how fast you found someone to put the original bow back on the watch. Incredible :D

I'm curious does the bow swivel or did the added gold fix the bow in place. Regardless it looks good. If your careful it should hold up.

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