Quartz Conversion for a '58 Alice

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Quartz Conversion for a '58 Alice

#1 Post by Hamtramck Stan » Sat May 26, 2018 1:14 pm

After failed attempts to obtain decent amplitude on the original Model 21, I decided to do a quartz conversion.

Though it meant the watches were not going to be 100% original, I wanted this and a similar '59 to be reliable and accurate for our 'grand' nieces.

The movement choice was a Miyota 2026 so the minute and hour hand posts would protrude through the dial. I soldered wire for the dial feet, made a movement-to-dial spacer out of 0.5 mm styrene, made a winding stem dust shield out of acetal, and fitted the movement ring to the case. The original movement dust shield needed to be used to keep the movement and dial against the case as it originally did with the original movement.
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Re: Quartz Conversion for a '58 Alice

#2 Post by JerseyMo » Sat May 26, 2018 5:22 pm

I thought that was #22?
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Re: Quartz Conversion for a '58 Alice

#3 Post by Hamtramck Stan » Sun May 27, 2018 10:22 am

Well, it appears US Time made both the 21 and 22 through 1959, but only the Petite and character watches had the 21. In 1960, the cases were revised (the case backs were made 0.5 mm smaller) and fitted with the 22.

The date codes on both watches I worked on were from '58 and '59, both made in Little Rock.

Some time ago (and being pretty much new to vintage Timex's then), I questioned on the old Timex forum what year the Southamptons were made, because I couldn't place, in my mind's eye, that the Southampton movement was made after '57 because it was based on the 21. You correctly replied with a nice posting of the ad and stated that it was made in 1958.

With the 21 still being made in '58 and '59, this makes sense.

The photo of the '59 prior to conversion shows the fixed bearing on the back side of the movement, so it's a 21.
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Thus is the 1959 Alice watch with the bearing screw on the dial side
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This is the case back with "L95", meaning Little Rock 1959 (the 59 being reversed, as usual from US Time)
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Re: Quartz Conversion for a '58 Alice

#4 Post by JerseyMo » Sun May 27, 2018 11:58 am

yep - it is a 21 the top plate is one of the defining clues.
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Re: Quartz Conversion for a '58 Alice

#5 Post by Dadistic » Tue May 29, 2018 11:04 am

Thanks for the date code clue, somehow I had missed this info.

The conversion is nice and tidy, too. I think the grand nieces will enjoy!

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