Help me find (replica?) ribbon band for women's Tonneau watch

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Re: Help me find (replica?) ribbon band for women's Tonneau watch

#11 Post by mrtoad » Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:13 pm

Thanks for the pictures.

This model is known as a "Cushion" rather than a "Tonneau". You can see it in the 1924 and 1926 catalogues (http://www.vintagewatchforums.com/viewt ... f=21&t=192, http://www.vintagewatchforums.com/viewt ... f=21&t=190). Hamilton offered lots of different patterns of engraving on these cases over the years, just as they offered the cases in both solid and gold filled. It is not surprising that an older movement show up in a watch of this period: the manufacturers built movements in batches, then used them up as needed.

As you can see from the catalog pictures, this watch would probably have been sold with a ribbon band. However, the cord band and its adapter might have been put on by the seller if the buyer did not like ribbon bands. If you want to keep the cord band, you should get your jeweler to clean off the corrosion; if the jeweler doesn't stock braided leather cord, it might be found in a leatherwork shop. The ribbon band is kinder to the case, however.

The snap-on cover for the back is unusual; I've never seen one before. More people are sensitive to silver than to gold, which makes it all the more strange.

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Re: Help me find (replica?) ribbon band for women's Tonneau watch

#12 Post by ellamama » Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:44 pm

I agree that the sterling silver back cover is peculiar. Gold sensitives are very unusual. I suspect the sensitivity was not due to gold but, actually, nickel (a commonly used alloy in white gold). Such a sensitivity was clearly common enough to make it worth Jaccard's while to create (and patent) an accessory for this specific watch case.

I'm curious that I've not yet seen photos or illustrations of other "cushion" watches with a sweep hand at the 9 o'clock position. What do folks know about this detail?

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Re: Help me find (replica?) ribbon band for women's Tonneau watch

#13 Post by Magpie » Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:13 pm

I'm curious that I've not yet seen photos or illustrations of other "cushion" watches with a sweep hand at the 9 o'clock position. What do folks know about this detail?
One of our forum members, HandyDan, says this on his website: "You might occasionally find a 986 movement and a dial with a 'seconds at 9' sub second register. The 986 was a ladies pocket watch movement." http://www.hamiltonchronicles.com/2012/ ... rhaul.html

A subsidiary seconds register at 9 is what your watch has. (Subs are more usually found at 6.) Sweep seconds are different: the second hand is mounted in the center and "sweeps" around the dial.

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Re: Help me find (replica?) ribbon band for women's Tonneau watch

#14 Post by ellamama » Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:07 pm

Thanks Magpie and others who're educating me on Hamilton watch anatomy and physiology!

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Re: Help me find (replica?) ribbon band for women's Tonneau watch

#15 Post by ellamama » Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:48 pm

I finally got my watch back from its servicing. Now that it's working properly, I'm even more eager to find a suitable watch band: a grosgrain ribbon band with (ideally) a 14K WG clasp. I've been searching online (Ebay, Etsy, etc.) for something like this and so far have turned up nothing suitable. Honestly, if I could find just the hardware, I'd be happy to assemble a new one from modern ribbon.

Does anybody know the technical name for the type of clasp/fastener used on such wristbands? I keep thinking that if I use more accurate terminology it'll be easier to find what I'm looking for.

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Re: Help me find (replica?) ribbon band for women's Tonneau watch

#16 Post by JerryT » Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:27 pm

In one of the old (1925) material and supply catalogs they were called either "bracelet buckles" or "ribbon bracelet buckles".
[I wish I could buy a one dozen assortment for $4.15 today].

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