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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:52 pm 
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Actually, it is that old.

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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
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vintagehamiltons wrote:
Actually, it is that old.


So, you guys think it's a redialed Sherwood from 1961? That would definitely mean it was that way when given to my Dad. Weird. He was a clergy, and this was given to him by the men's club of a religious institution. You wouldn't think they would buy a used, refinished piece, have it engraved and give it to him, but you guys are the experts.

I guess I can't figure out exactly how old it is, at least without seeing the movement. Well, luckily, I'm not worried about it if it's a redial--it still has the same sentimental value.

Thank you for your responses; if anyone has any additional thoughts, I'd welcome them.


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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
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It's identical to the 1961-62 Sherwood M except for the woodgrain dial. Can't say for sure the dial has been refinished; it looks original to me. Possibly an alternate that was available?

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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
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vintagehamiltons wrote:
It's identical to the 1961-62 Sherwood M except for the woodgrain dial. Can't say for sure the dial has been refinished; it looks original to me. Possibly an alternate that was available?

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Well, as namespetra pointed out, the seconds subdial markings are longer on mine, but otherwise it does seem quite similar. But someone would have to go to a lot of trouble to exactly match the other markers and numerals. Here's the only picture of one I could find on the net.


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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
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I'm not a Hamilton expert, but just from hanging out on this board, I've gained the impression that the awards department routinely offered variations of stock or even out-of-production models. Since this was a inscribed gift from an organization, doesn't that seem like a plausible explanation?

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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
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It's a variation of the Aldrich, which originally came out in the late 1950s. In 1960, the Aldrich case with a textured dial became the Romanesque M, and in 1961 with the wood dial, the Sherwood M.

This variation uses the Aldrich case, but with a less complicated dial than the original Aldrich. I think most of the examples I've seen of this variation have been award watches.

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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
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Yes, this was an award watch, so that seems like the most likely explanation. The next time it needs servicing, I will ask them to take some movement pictures, as I'm still curious about when it was made. Clearly, by the one for sale I posted earlier that had a 1966 inscription, this would have been available for quite a while. I appreciate everyone's comments as I try to unravel the mystery!


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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
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Didn't see this in the catalogs - either post 1977 or (as I believe) one of the export models

also posted in WRUW with more info


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 Post subject: Please help identify this Hamilton
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ok Dave I can't find it......please help me Identify The movement says 679 I bought this for my son who has just started collecting. Any info you can provide I appreciate.


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 Post subject: Re: Please help identify this Hamilton
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ok Dave I can't find it......please help me Identify The movement says 679 I bought this for my son who has just started collecting. Any info you can provide I appreciate.

Accumatic IX-B (1961). You can find details on Dan's blog here: http://www.hamiltonchronicles.com/2014/ ... -ix-b.html

This does answer one question we had, i.e. which movement the IX-B used. The IX used the grade 672 like the earlier Accumatics.

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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
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Hello,

Would anyone please be able to give "him" a name? Thanks for helping me out


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Would anyone please be able to give "him" a name? Thanks for helping me out

The consensus seems to be that it is a case variation of the original Accumatic. We have seen these before like this example that belongs to one of our members.

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 Post subject: Re: Please help identify this Hamilton
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Dave wrote:
KCTGA0116 wrote:
ok Dave I can't find it......please help me Identify The movement says 679 I bought this for my son who has just started collecting. Any info you can provide I appreciate.

Accumatic IX-B (1961). You can find details on Dan's blog here: http://www.hamiltonchronicles.com/2014/ ... -ix-b.html

This does answer one question we had, i.e. which movement the IX-B used. The IX used the grade 672 like the earlier Accumatics.



Are you sure? I looked at the link and the Accumatic IX-B does not have the "H" on the face like mine does.


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The vast majority of models are identified by the case and occasionally by the case & dial combination.

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 Post subject: Re: Please help identify this Hamilton
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KCTGA0116 wrote:
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KCTGA0116 wrote:
ok Dave I can't find it......please help me Identify The movement says 679 I bought this for my son who has just started collecting. Any info you can provide I appreciate.

Accumatic IX-B (1961). You can find details on Dan's blog here: http://www.hamiltonchronicles.com/2014/ ... -ix-b.html

This does answer one question we had, i.e. which movement the IX-B used. The IX used the grade 672 like the earlier Accumatics.



Are you sure? I looked at the link and the Accumatic IX-B does not have the "H" on the face like mine does.

The date in the photo thread reflects the first date the model was cataloged. In the case of the IX-B, they updated the image for the 1962 model catalog. It's hard to say whether they changed the dial for 1961 or 1962. I suspect that they reused the image of the IX for the IX-B at first but updated the catalog when they had time.

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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
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Hi All,

Just picked this up on eBay and was hoping for a model and year. I looked for a long time through the ID guides but couldn't find it. Thanks for the help in advance!

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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
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Hello....Had this Hamilton - Illinois watch in my family for so long I can't remember if it was my grandfather's or father's watch....anyway I can't seem to located any info on this particular model.....on the case it states it is an Illinois 9510 10k gold filled....front indicates a Hamilton Incabloc ......inside the back of the case states it is 17 jewel 10k gold filled.....with a number S270109.......it is in excellent working condition.....accurate and cosmetically great shape with the original leather band. I know you must get a ton of requests like this but I sure would appreciate any info you could give to me as I would like to pass this fine timepiece and it's history down to my young son when he gets a bit older.....if you would require more or better photos just message me and I will gladly respond....anyway ...I am retired here in the Philippines and I have no one here that I know that can help me with this......thanks again.....Hall


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Hall wrote:
Hello....Had this Hamilton - Illinois watch in my family for so long I can't remember if it was my grandfather's or father's watch....anyway I can't seem to located any info on this particular model.....

The Hamilton-Illinois branded watches are a short-lived production from Hamilton. There is very limited knowledge about these models. However, I am led to believe that there is a book coming out shortly that will reveal a great deal of new research about these Hamilton-Illinois models. I will message the author to point him to your post and see if he can provide any info on your specific example.

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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
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Hello.....and thanks Dave for your prompt reply. I sure hope I can get some more background on this particular model....it may not be valuable but it holds great sentimental value to me. And it does run perfectly and still looks good for it's age. It sure has more character and class than anything of more recent vintage !! Again...thanks for taking time to respond to my inquiry and also for the referral to the person who is writing the book on these models....to be honest....this has turned into more than a simple quest for info....now I am getting the 'bug' to start a small collection maybe !!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
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Hall I found your watch in the 1953 Hamilton/Illinois Catalog Topper Series called the Model-B


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