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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:28 am 
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Wow...thank you 1 More !!!! I don't think I would have been able to track this model down......much appreciate your time and effort. The watch is in almost perfect / new shape....it is amazingly accurate for sitting in a dresser drawer for almost 50 years. I don't have any idea of it's current value but I would not sell it at any price as it comes to me through my Grandfather/father and will be passed on to my son when he is old enough to appreciate it !!! It sure has more character than all these new digital watches they have out now !! I just can't believe the quality of this timepiece....even compared to my high -end Seiko....this Hamilton/Illinois has it beat...in form and function both !!! I would wear it everyday but want to keep it as pristine as possible so it only comes out on special occassions .........well...I guess the next quest is to find out as much as I can about the Manufacturer and the engineering background of the movement. Again....thanks to Dave and especially you as well as all the others here who took the time to help me research this watch......now I am thinking about a Ladies model for the wife...................!!! Take care all......Hall.


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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 12:23 pm 
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If you plan to wear this watch, even just for special occasions, you should have it oiled and serviced. Since it has not likely been serviced for many years, the dry oil and dirt will grind down the ends of the pinions and erode the jewels. A great deal of damage can be done in a short time. I even suggest not to wind it anymore until it gets a proper service.

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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
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Thank you again Dave....will follow your advice and try to find a competent watchsmith over here.....if I can't I will have to send it back to the States for service....any suggestions??? Thanks again....all you guys have been a great help !!!


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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
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I came across this vintage HAMILTON watch and I understand I should be able to get more information with the serial number...my dilemma is I'm very new to the watch world and have no idea how to take this watch apart and don't want to risk breaking it. So if anyone could help me with identifying the approximate age or how to take it apart further I would be most appreciative.

Details about the watch: It says HAMILTON under the 12 o'clock position. Under the wrist chain (the flat part it says "Kreisler DURO-BRITE USA". On the back side of the watch near the top of the cover, read with a jewelers loop since it is very worn, it is engraved with something illegible, possibly HAMILTON? And "14 KT GOLD FILLED". The watch closed circumference is only 5 5/8". Please see pictures and ask any questions.


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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 10:03 pm 
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GreenesGoods wrote:
I came across this vintage HAMILTON watch and I understand I should be able to get more information with the serial number...my dilemma is I'm very new to the watch world and have no idea how to take this watch apart and don't want to risk breaking it. So if anyone could help me with identifying the approximate age or how to take it apart further I would be most appreciative.

Details about the watch: It says HAMILTON under the 12 o'clock position. Under the wrist chain (the flat part it says "Kreisler DURO-BRITE USA". On the back side of the watch near the top of the cover, read with a jewelers loop since it is very worn, it is engraved with something illegible, possibly HAMILTON? And "14 KT GOLD FILLED". The watch closed circumference is only 5 5/8". Please see pictures and ask any questions.

Please have a look through the ladies' catalog page to see if you find it there. http://www.vintagewatchforums.com/viewt ... =41&t=2754

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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:50 am 
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Looks like an Alcott from 1935


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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
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Hi everyone!

I'm pretty sure I have a beautiful Newlin from 1958-62 - the movement is a 770 and in great condition, some discoloration (green) on the inside of the gold filled case, nothing unusual. I found the below site that was a great help:

http://www.hamiltonchronicles.com/2013/05/1958-newlin.html

The only thing niggling at me is that the dial looks different from the catalogue options - do you think it's been repainted at some point? I'm hoping it's the original patina as I think it looks absolutely stunning, but want to be sure. I've never seen another Hamilton with the same hour markers....

Thanks in advance for your help!

Nick


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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:17 am 
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NickHopton wrote:
Hi everyone!

I'm pretty sure I have a beautiful Newlin from 1958-62 - the movement is a 770 and in great condition, some discoloration (green) on the inside of the gold filled case, nothing unusual. I found the below site that was a great help:

http://www.hamiltonchronicles.com/2013/05/1958-newlin.html

The only thing niggling at me is that the dial looks different from the catalogue options - do you think it's been repainted at some point? I'm hoping it's the original patina as I think it looks absolutely stunning, but want to be sure. I've never seen another Hamilton with the same hour markers....

Thanks in advance for your help!

Nick

What you actually have is a Thincraft I.

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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:33 pm 
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Dave wrote:
NickHopton wrote:
Hi everyone!

I'm pretty sure I have a beautiful Newlin from 1958-62 - the movement is a 770 and in great condition, some discoloration (green) on the inside of the gold filled case, nothing unusual. I found the below site that was a great help:

http://www.hamiltonchronicles.com/2013/05/1958-newlin.html

The only thing niggling at me is that the dial looks different from the catalogue options - do you think it's been repainted at some point? I'm hoping it's the original patina as I think it looks absolutely stunning, but want to be sure. I've never seen another Hamilton with the same hour markers....

Thanks in advance for your help!

Nick

What you actually have is a Thincraft I.

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Dave - thanks so much!! That's great and much appreciated!

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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:52 am 
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Received this as an anniversary gift - need help identifying it
At first I thought is was a Dateline A-680 - case looks exactly the same; however, dial is totally different
I looked through the 1964-1970 catalogs and couldn't find it

Any thoughts?


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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
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tnwareagle89 wrote:
Received this as an anniversary gift - need help identifying it
At first I thought is was a Dateline A-680 - case looks exactly the same; however, dial is totally different
I looked through the 1964-1970 catalogs and couldn't find it

Any thoughts?

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I have the same dial, different case.

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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:44 am 
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is this dial what normally goes with your example's model? which model is that?

wonder if what I have is a "franken" of sorts

Thanks for the help


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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
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tnwareagle89 wrote:
is this dial what normally goes with your example's model? which model is that?

wonder if what I have is a "franken" of sorts

Thanks for the help


My case looks like the A-678, but the 1966 & '68 catalogs show a different dial. I've not been able to find this dial in the catalogs. :(

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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
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I would guess that those two models are correct with different dials as they are from 68' and I don't believe we have a 69 catalog? Who knows, but those two dials are super cool.

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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 2:22 pm 
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This arrived today - would like more info if available

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14KT Case / Star & Co - Inside reads "P509525"
Case # 927469
29.7mm wide / 28.6mm tall
680 movement
11/16" lugs

Really like this dial - looks like some of the "TM" series as well as some variations of the Fontainebleau models

Smallish case, but still I can wear it

As stated in the "incoming" thread - I thought I'd seen one posted here, but couldn't find it - if already posted, sorry

BTW...the "scratch" on the crystal is actually a hair or something because it keeps moving around - will have that removed (or not) :)


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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
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A beauty, I was about to list and sell one of those.

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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:53 am 
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Bummer, Mark - would've preferred to buy it from you

Is there a formal name or does it just go by its case #?

I assume it's from the 60s


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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
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So I not so recently inherited a Hamilton watch from my late grandfather. I've never been much for wearing a watch, only ever wearing it for luck to job interviews, but it seems the luck has paid off. I have a more formal uniform than I previously did, and a watch doesn't look out of place anymore.

Anyways, any chance someone could ID his old watch for me so I can try to find a correct band? It currently wears some stretchy band that says "Speidel" on it and was made in China. I think it looks okay if I can't find an original, but I'm open to some watch afficianado help.

Here's the watch: http://imgur.com/a/7bSUL


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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
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Hello All,

I am brand new to the forum and also fairly new to the watch collecting game. I am hoping to find out more about the following watch as I have hit a dead end and am very intrigued with my findings, thus far.

I recently won a solid 10k gold Hamilton watch, on a goodwill auction, which I was planning on fixing up a bit and then using it as nice dress watch. The listing read as follows (see link) "10K Yellow Gold Men’s Self-Winding" It also has an engraving on the back for Hooker Chemical company, which appears to be a commemoration for 25 years of service, from the company to an employee. The link to the auction listing is (I also have a picture included below):

http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem.as ... D=35070544

After I won the auction, I began investigating a bit, mostly in an effort to see if I would be able to get a replacement crystal, when I came across something that caught my attention. It was the following advertisement, which was an exact copy of the watch referenced, to include the "Hooker Chemical" engraving on the back:

https://www.etsy.com/listing/287003845/ ... C8mfw_wcB#

The watch in my possession is not in as good of condition as the one in the above advertisement. The face on mine has some blemishes and there is some wear by the dial. The band is also in need of replacement. The watch does keep time and retain its full functionality. Most importantly, I only paid roughly 10% of what the above watch is being advertised for, and will pay another small investment, in order to get a crystal fitted.

So finally my request is as follows:

Firsts and foremost, I am hoping someone can tell me more about this watch, so I can decide what I will do with it (options i am considering are: sell it, keep as a collector's item with no further changes made, use as a dress watch and get a new leather band or invest in a full, professional restoration). Ultimately, is this watch special, a collectors item or just run of the mil and worth only about the weight of the gold?

I looked through all the catalog and could not find this particular model. I searched through all the 1950's and 60's catalogs. There are a couple models that look close but they had some differences. The case number on my watch is 852172.

I also would like some input on what the real value of the watch may roughly be. I understand I won't get a super accurate estimate, but the delta between the above advertisement and what I paid has stoked quite a bit of curiosity from me. Since I bought the watch as piece I planned on wearing, on at least a semi regular basis, I would like to know if I am walking around with a valuable collectors watch, or just a nice vintage gold watch that is worth about what I paid at auction for it. In fact if it is worth even half of what the above add has, I would have a hard time wearing it, without worrying about it getting damaged or lost.

The last request I have is to get some suggestions on what I should do with the watch, from a restoration standpoint. As a novice to this sort of thing I want to make sure I am not devaluing the piece by doing something that would affect its worth. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you very much for any input that could be provided. Have a wonderful day.

-MFA


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 Post subject: Re: Post Your Mystery Hamiltons Here.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 8:24 am 
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Welcome to the forum

Very nice watch - I believe it's from the mid-late 1970s

The closest model I found in the catalogs is the Day n Date ST-4500 (10K Gold Filled); while that watch was not solid gold, the case shape is the same

The Day/Date feature are at the "3" position as opposed to yours at the "6"

Given it's a "Masterpiece", the watch likely came from the Hamilton Awards Division and I don't believe those were part of the regular catalog lineup

Hope you find a crystal for it - add a nice strap and you're good to go!

Everyone else...please weigh in if anything I typed is incorrect

Thanks
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