Vintage 1930s Heirloom & Question

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Re: Vintage 1930s Heirloom & Question

#11 Post by Tank » Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:49 am

The photo provided is out of focus, not sure who made the watch.
The only thing legible is "________AUER", is it a Wittnauer?
Can you provide a clearer photo of the movement, there might be a serial number or a model number on either side of the case back as well. A picture of the the case front and dial might help identify the model too.

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Re: Vintage 1930s Heirloom & Question

#12 Post by Katzenjammer » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:08 am

Sorry! I snapped it quickly after my repairman opened it for me. It's a Wittnauer - does that help? Does this photo help at all?
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Re: Vintage 1930s Heirloom & Question

#13 Post by Katzenjammer » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:10 am

Maybe I should forget the watch and get a new iphone - sorry for the poor photo quality. :oops:

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Re: Vintage 1930s Heirloom & Question

#14 Post by Katzenjammer » Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:13 pm

So would parts be readily available for this watch = or, is it too hard to tell due to my poor photo?

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Re: Vintage 1930s Heirloom & Question

#15 Post by Tank » Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:47 pm

The photo confirms it is a Wittnauer with a military dial. A clear picture of the movement might reveal a serial number. The inside of the case back might have information.

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Re: Vintage 1930s Heirloom & Question

#16 Post by 441victor » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:28 am

Hi Katz and welcome to the forum. Don't get discouraged. There are a couple of things contributing to the slow response here. The Beginner's Forum isn't a high traffic spot on VWF and Wittenauer is not one of the "popular" brands here. So it may take a little longer for your post to attract the attention of members who can give you the information you need. Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with Wittenauer so I can only offer some general comments. Your watch is exceptional. I assume it is solid gold as I see no plating wear. Obviously, it's been well kept and it's even more special being a family heirloom. It has some features that will make it a challenge for you and your watchmaker. Sweep second movements were uncommon prior to their production for the military during WWII. They were usually based on more common sub-second grades but the extra parts like the drive wheel and the extended pivot it mounts on, the sweep second hand and its pivot and the hollow center wheel staff that allows it to pass through the movement are all specific to this model. So even though mainsprings and even balance staffs may be available, there are parts that can only be sourced from donor movements. I suggest that perhaps not a whole watch but at least a spare movement will be cheap insurance to keep yours healthy for the coming years. I have the identical problem with my early Elgin and Waltham sweep second watches. Although it's such shameful practice, the orphan movements left from the melting of solid gold cases are my only source for the parts I need to restore watches in my collection. As I post this, I'm looking at a 1932 Elgin grade 502 that I received today. I will be using it to get a model 1462 Air Lord back in service. Live long and prosper, Joel

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Re: Vintage 1930s Heirloom & Question

#17 Post by Katzenjammer » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:01 am

Thanks Joel so very much for your response! How would a beginner like myself go about finding parts? Maybe I should send the watch to an vintage Wittnauer expert (assuming such a person exists and I can find him/her) who would be able to source parts?

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Re: Vintage 1930s Heirloom & Question

#18 Post by Mugea » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:40 am

Hi Katzenjammer (what a nick! But it fits quite well the trouble you have with your watch),

Maybe this could be of interest for you:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Mens-W ... 2515598102

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wittnauer-10TS ... 2089421335


Both movements seem to be identical to the movement in your watch.

Best regarsds

Martin

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Re: Vintage 1930s Heirloom & Question

#19 Post by Katzenjammer » Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:39 am

Wow! Thanks! :) :D

I forgot to mention: yes, it is solid gold.

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Re: Vintage 1930s Heirloom & Question

#20 Post by 441victor » Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:29 pm

The good news, grade 10TS's seem to be fairly common. So, a couple of donor movements and a good watchmaker will make your goal a reality. Joel

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