Is it unusual to have an unmarked case with a 1942 SN?

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Is it unusual to have an unmarked case with a 1942 SN?

#1 Post by nickmicz22 » Sun Nov 22, 2015 12:24 pm

Hello all, this is the lone military model i received with a large lot of hamiltons I recently bought of a local collector. The serial number on the movement dates it to 1942, and the case certainly looks like a 70 year old part, however it does not seem to have the expected markings. I can't make out anything between the lugs top or bottom, the lifted plating doesn't help but I think I'd see something if was there. The back is only marked on the inside. I know the case is in poor shape but if its original and correct for the movement I would be in less of a rush to replace it. What do you think? The number of watchmaker marks show that it was used and cared for after the war, would OE style keystone cases have been available as replacements without the markings?
Anyone got a crown in similar condition to match the case?
Looks like someone on ebay busted into a crate of unused straps from the war. 20$ each sounds fair to me.
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Re: Is it unusual to have an unmarked case with a 1942 SN?

#2 Post by leibo » Mon Nov 23, 2015 6:34 pm

I don't think it's unusual for the case to be replaced with a generic. It seems that the general quality of the cases (and plate) wasn't so hot during the war.

The 987S is more desirable movement - it is the sweep seconds with a hacking function.

I would poke around (or post) on http://www.mwrforum.net. That's where all of the military watch nuts reside. You can figure out what case it should go in. It seems that the cases pop up eBay somewhat frequently - there were many watches and variants made during the war. Sometimes, the proper case you are looking for might be housing an improper movement.

Also, I just saw this listing on eBay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HAMILTON-987A-M ... 1799839172

I'm not sure if the 987-S and 987-A have the same crown?

Also, I had re-plated / repaired one I picked up on eBay. I figured that there was no harm in repairing a case that was seriously trashed.
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(Norm has since help me correct the wrong sub-seconds!)

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Re: Is it unusual to have an unmarked case with a 1942 SN?

#3 Post by nickmicz22 » Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:13 pm

Thanks, I snapped up the crowns and have an nos band on the way. Should have a nice watch in a week or two.

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Re: Is it unusual to have an unmarked case with a 1942 SN?

#4 Post by retroworx » Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:37 am

Wow, Kevin, what a transformation!
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Re: Is it unusual to have an unmarked case with a 1942 SN?

#5 Post by leibo » Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:47 pm

That was the first watch that I thought I could be Handy Dan. The only issue - I can't do any of the work :lol:

It is fun to see a night and day transformation. And bringing something back from the junk heap.

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