Waltham Depollier "Khaki" crown convertible Trench / Fob WW1

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Waltham Depollier "Khaki" crown convertible Trench / Fob WW1

#1 Post by slinfiniti » Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:48 pm

This is my latest find. It is the first for me to see a Depollier case with the detachable lug. It is not stamped sterling silver. The case measures approximately 31MM. I would be curious if anyone one else has seen a watch like this. Now I need to get a "watch fob" to make it historically correct.


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Look at the detachable "swing" lug!

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The swing lugs attached to the watch case with a flip catch that has a center hole, the detachable lug has center hold that will align with the lug, push down on the clasp, it will "snap" closed and it is attached!

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The Khaki crown is still in remarkable shape without too much rounding and wear

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The movement is a 7 jewel work horse


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Depollier Case

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I have brown strap completing the look

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Below you will find a Cushion Depollier case with a Khaki crown and a traditional Round 31MM case with Khaki crown

Cushion Case below:
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The round

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Re: Waltham Depollier "Khaki" crown convertible Trench / Fob

#2 Post by Literustyfan » Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:10 am

The early versions with the detachable lug are pretty hard to come by these days!

I've only seen a small handful over the past 5 years.

Here is a great advert for this watch from 1916.

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Could you just imagine getting your hands on one of these in PLATINUM with a Maximus movement ? ? ?

I've never seen one, don't know if I could afford one either, the price would be crazy high!
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#3 Post by Literustyfan » Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:17 am

Another one from 1919.

Note that in the 1916 advert above the "clinched bezel" feature is not mentioned, that is because it has not been invented yet.

It is a VERY common misconception that ALL Depollier cases should have a "clinched bezel" but this feature was not available until 1917.

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#4 Post by Literustyfan » Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:39 am

The "cushion" version that you have is pretty hard to obtain as well. (I have one myself).

This is an incredible watch case, it is DOUBLE the normal sterling silver weight of a watch case from this era.

The case alone without the movement, dial, hands and crystal weighs in at 18.6 gram of sterling silver................trust me, that is VERY heavy for a watch of this nature!

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#5 Post by slinfiniti » Mon Feb 03, 2014 6:09 pm

What year would you estimate it to be

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#6 Post by Literustyfan » Mon Feb 03, 2014 8:20 pm

From the 20263257 serial number I'd say that it's from 1916.
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Re: Waltham Depollier "Khaki" crown convertible Trench / Fob

#7 Post by GLADIATOR » Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:20 am

slinfiniti wrote:This is my latest find. It is the first for me to see a Depollier case with the detachable lug. It is not stamped sterling silver. The case measures approximately 31MM. I would be curious if anyone one else has seen a watch like this. Now I need to get a "watch fob" to make it historically correct.

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Very, Very Cool.
I NEVER saw or knew of that detachable lug (I do have a swing one)

Really nice
Here is one of mine in its original box:

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Another Advert 1917
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Re: Waltham Depollier "Khaki" crown convertible Trench / Fob WW1

#8 Post by nosnor365 » Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:10 pm

I need some help. I just picked up one of these and from the great photos and details posted above I have a good understanding on the mechanics of the detachable lug. However, I cannot get the clasp open. The mechanism looks pretty delicate, so I don't want to force anything. Any tips or suggestions on how to get the clasp open would be greatly appreciated! Kind regards, Dave.

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Re: Waltham Depollier "Khaki" crown convertible Trench / Fob WW1

#9 Post by nosnor365 » Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:12 am

On further inspection, it appears the clasp has been soldered in place. I'm going to attempt to desolder it. The serial number on the case is 11703.

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