Bulova 1955 Clipper (?) - Real or Franken

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Bulova 1955 Clipper (?) - Real or Franken

#1 Post by Mugea » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:39 am

Hopefully, the Bulova Experts will help to answer some questions:

My wife presented to me for Christmas a Bulova. Well, I like it, but I have no knowledge about Bulovas (I’m more interested in Hamiltons). I made already a search for Bulovas on mybulova.com and it seems to be a 1955 Clipper.

Technical data are:

Movement: 10CSC, L5 date coded (I haven’t opened the watch yet for obvious reasons, but photos of the seller are present)

Case: 10 K Gold rolled plated, SSB, L5 dated, SN A568461

Box: non-matching (?) Duo-Wind Box (the German seller is notorious known for pairing vintage watches with non-matching boxes)


See photos I’ve taken:

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Now and what makes me nervous: is the dial real or Franken? I haven’t seen such a dial on any other Clipper or “Something plus Clipper” model. Is it a Clipper? Or something else?

There’s a ding on the dial (what hasn’t been described by the seller) – well, I can live with it. But if the dial should be a fantasy creation, my wife will have to send it back. What I want to avoid, of course (it’s a Christmas present…..).

Consequently, you input is highly appreciated!

Best regards

Martin

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Re: Bulova 1955 Clipper (?) - Real or Franken

#2 Post by watchdoc » Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:24 am

From what I've seen from the pics it certainly appears to be a older "re-dial", and a fairly good one at that!

I like it and certainly would not send it back. :roll:

If you want to verify if it's a re-dial, pop it open and look for the little telltale "notch" on the edge of the dial.
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Re: Bulova 1955 Clipper (?) - Real or Franken

#3 Post by Mugea » Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:40 am

Hi watchdog,

thank you for your expertise!

Meanwhile, some fellows from mybulova.com advised me, that the hands aren’t correct also.


And moreover, the dial isn’t aligned properly. See some newer photos from the very same watch:
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Regarding the second image with the red and blue frame and the pink line:

Red frame shall indicate, that the lugs are perfectly aligned horizontally
Blue frame’s upper line running through the center – see, how the word “SELFWINDING” is “shifted”
Pink line running through the “12” and “6” hasn’t an angle of 90 degrees, but of 93.3 degrees.


Hum, what to do now? On the plus side:

- a Christmas present from my wife
- a nice looking Bulova

Hum. I’ll have to think that over……

Best regards

Martin

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