I’d like to put a footnote on this discourse since it’s my post from Feb 2012 that has gotten tangled up in it. ... I did the post quoted by Ninja01 here back in 2012 just to make that collected information accessible to other collectors and to add it to the discussion... I’ve never offered an opinion addressing the production quantities or qualities of Bulova’s Swiss vs US manufacturing. I am willing to accept the opinion that watchdoc offered in the first line of his opening post that Bulova “imported most all of their movements” and believe it is based on more expertise and consideration of the subject than I can offer up. I’m was trying to make the case that Bulova is an American manufacturer and their watches don’t deserve to be categorized the same as the production of Benrus and Wittnaur. ... Joel
Nice to hear you weigh in on this thread. I was getting a little concerned about what your reaction would be to the "controversy" I unwittingly stirred up by quoting you. I'd also forgotten, for a moment or two, I was not on Facebook & kept looking for that "Like" button to put on your post here
I'll also just add that I interpreted your statement, "Bulova manufactured more different movements
in the US than any other company except Elgin" so that more different movements
would mean "number of different calibres" and NOT "overall quantity of movements manufactured". Thus I was not
interpreting your statement to imply that the majority of Bulova production was US based, simply that Bulovas US manufacturing activity was "serious" in nature. Just to set the record straight.
Now one final thought, based on various statements in this thread, it is possible that the definition of "US made" vs. "Swiss made" movement, in the case of Bulova (which was a Multinational manufacturer at least for part of its history) may be an artificial or "legislated" distinction rather than a clear-cut, "all or nothing" decision. If substantial work was done by both
the Swiss and US production facilities of Bulova on any particular movement, then the method for official assignment of responsibility for manufacture (for record-keeping purposes by government or trade group) sounds similar to the "Swiss Made" designation where there were legislated protocols for deciding just how much of a Swiss watch (materials & labor) had to be made in Switzerland to actually label it Swiss. It may only matter to serious partisans of the countries involved if a "US Made" movement started with a Swiss design &/or ebauche though. For me, I have collected watches from all watch-making continents (America, Europe, and Asia) and find high-quality workmanship and interesting movement design available from each one of them. Thus, for me, whether Bulova was primarily a vendor of Swiss movements or American/US movements or even hybrid movements really does not affect my opinion of them regarding quality level or collector interest.