Difference between Elgin 421 and Elgin 449

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Difference between Elgin 421 and Elgin 449

#1 Post by Gabe » Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:50 am

I'm very confused by these two pictures found here.

What is the difference between an Elgin 421 and an Elgin 449?

Is it just the band?


This is a picture of a 421:
EnamelLegionnaire421.jpg
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This is a picture of a 449:
EnamelLegionnaire449.jpg
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They look the same but the reason I ask is because, apparently, the crystals are different.

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Re: Difference between Elgin 421 and Elgin 449

#2 Post by Gabe » Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:57 am

Here's a link to a 421 crystal:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Rare-N ... SwblZZLaLD

Here's a link to a 449 crystal:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Rare-N ... Sw0hlZJb2K

Were these two different sizes of very similar watches?

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Re: Difference between Elgin 421 and Elgin 449

#3 Post by Gabe » Sat Sep 29, 2018 12:01 pm

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Re: Difference between Elgin 421 and Elgin 449

#4 Post by coronado » Sun Sep 30, 2018 3:04 am

The enamel bezel 421 and 449 are identical except for the band, and they take the same crystal and dial, which is the smaller of the two you showed (the 449).

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Re: Difference between Elgin 421 and Elgin 449

#5 Post by Gabe » Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:23 am

Thank you so much. That helps me proceed with a proper restoration.

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Re: Difference between Elgin 421 and Elgin 449

#6 Post by 441victor » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:57 pm

Why do you believe that the first crystal you cite is for a model 421? It clearly states it's for a model 404 which is one of the engraved bezel models with a much larger opening than the enamel bezel models. I've spent a lot of time confused because I missed the big picture while concentrating too hard on the little differences. Joel

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Re: Difference between Elgin 421 and Elgin 449

#7 Post by Gabe » Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:04 am

Because the seller updated it since I purchased it.

It originally said 421. You can see the original listing at
https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?V ... 2028177018

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Re: Difference between Elgin 421 and Elgin 449

#8 Post by 441victor » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:33 pm

Sorry, Gabe. Things happen way to fast here for me to keep up sometimes. Saw the other post where the seller is apparently a member here. Joel

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