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Something different

#1 Post by Jasoni11 » Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:30 pm

Well, here is something you don't see every day. Or at least not me. I decided I wanted to own it. I'm sure there is more out there like it. Has anyone seen any like it? I'm trying to restore it, so I'm looking for pictures of another one so I can see what I need to do.
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Re: Something different

#2 Post by Jasoni11 » Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:39 pm

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Re: Something different

#3 Post by SFC » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:45 am

I don't think I have ever seen the "observado en todas posiciones" on a watch movement. I am not an expert in spanish watch lingo but "observado" doesn't give me confidence that the watch was actually adjusted to minimize positional error. I don't have much to add other than it would be cool to get a close up the the logo and writing at the bottom of the movement where the hinge is.. definitely an interesting piece thanks for sharing.

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Re: Something different

#4 Post by Mugea » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:46 am

Maybe the Swiss Patent No. 15360 (mentioned on the Watch) could be of interest:

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It was filed on 12th November 1897 in Swiss Patent Office by Courvoisier Frères – their name is present of the watch too.

I guess, the watch was exported to one of the countries were Spanish is spoken.

Sorry, no real idea what’s the patent is about.

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Re: Something different

#5 Post by afire » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:36 am

If I'm learning from JerryT correctly, I think that movement uses a Roskopf pin-pallet escapement. Not that I really unedrstand that, but they seem to have a unique look.
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Re: Something different

#6 Post by Jasoni11 » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:46 am

This is the best I could do for a close-up. Mu phone isn't the greatest.

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Re: Something different

#7 Post by Jasoni11 » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:07 am

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Re: Something different

#8 Post by JerryT » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:11 pm

This is "something different" in a number of ways! The marking in Spanish is something I have not seen before on these, and the dial is certainly unusual. It looks like silver, and I would guess that the hours were painted on those raised "scrolls" at one time. The watch certainly looks like a Roskopf (as afire astutely observed)., but I cannot see the escapement clearly enough to tell if it does indeed have a pin pallet escapement. If it is, I think it is also quite unusual to have jeweled bearings for the gear train. Neat watch.

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Re: Something different

#9 Post by Jasoni11 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:05 pm

Everything is silver, and yes the dial was painted with Roman numerals. I have cleaned up almost all the tarnish off the watch. I know some people like the patina look but not me. I like all my watches to shine! I have not seen anything like this one so I wanted to own it. It has a few problems still, but I'm fixing everything little by little. It's not an easy watch to find parts for. To be honest I've gotten lucky. I had a spring laying around that just happen to be the exact one I needed, and the screws that have broken off I was able to replace with swiss movements I had for parts. I'm debating having the numbers painted back on. I'm not going to clean the dial any more than I already have. The edges of it were almost black with tarnish, so I cleaned it up very carefully.
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Re: Something different

#10 Post by JerryT » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:42 pm

Thanks for posting better photos. Definitely a pin pallet escapement, but the highest grade Roskopf I have ever seen!

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