Armored case by Fahys trench watch

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Armored case by Fahys trench watch

#1 Post by randy van » Thu May 24, 2018 10:05 am

Here's an unusual Illinois sterling silver Fahys "armored case" trench watch. The back has a 1918 inscription. This watch is over 100 years old.
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#2 Post by Dadistic » Fri May 25, 2018 6:28 am

Oh I like that. It's fun that there are now wristwatches that have been around for more than a century.

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#3 Post by JackW » Fri May 25, 2018 7:02 pm

Very cool!

May we see the inside of the case back and movement too?
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#4 Post by randy van » Sat May 26, 2018 7:10 am

Here you go, Jack. Also, after this was posted I noticed the bezel needed to be aligned so the numerals on the dial could be read.
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#5 Post by jimglynn » Sat May 26, 2018 2:22 pm

If only these old Illinois could speak... I wonder what story we would hear?

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#6 Post by JackW » Tue May 29, 2018 5:03 pm

Randy,

Thank you for posting the images.
jimglynn wrote:
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If only these old Illinois could speak... I wonder what story we would hear?
There is a bit of a story just out of the movement and case serials... The movement is ca. 1916 per the pocketwatchdadabase.com website. Although I thought there was a better look-up scheme on the NAWCC site but I cannot find it. Kinda early for a US men's wristwatch, but I can believe it especially in light of the discussion in Fred's new book on the 3/0s watch movement.

To go with the movement, you have the Fahys case which has a low serial number 98xxxxx if I'm seeing it correctly. I think this is pretty early. The Patent Pending mark too suggests an early example of this. Adverts, per Stan C.'s books show the case came out in 1917. I don't see any screw marks on the case, so I'd say that "recased" isn't a concern for this one. You have it in hand, so really only you can answer that question.

All that said, I think this is a phenomenal example of an early jober-cased Illinois wrist watch.

I'd love to own one of these. I'm in the process of restoring an Elgin in a Fahys square armored that is 0s.
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Re: Armored case by Fahys trench watch

#7 Post by randy van » Wed May 30, 2018 7:20 am

Thank you very much, Jack, for the information on the case and movement. Your information does nicely tie everything together. Military watches, if this is categorized as such, are out of my normal wheelhouse. I bought this watch to add to my Illinois collection to represent a very early Illinois wristwatch, and the dated case inscription gave it the "wow" factor. You have given me some homework! I have Fred's book set, and will re-read the section on the 3/0 size movements. I also have Stan's Elgin and Waltham books; will re-read the sections on the Fahys cases. Right now the case is polished; I have decided to let the watch naturally tarnish and see if it looks better that way. Good luck in your search!

edit: I don't know if this was ever re-cased; the movement, dial and case are the same that I purchased.

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#8 Post by GJH » Thu May 31, 2018 5:16 pm

FANTASTIC RANDY!!!

A wonderful example of a beautiful Illinois!

Congrats!
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#9 Post by PedroA » Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:10 am

Very nice model. I have try to buy a similar model but they are very expensive. I will wait a good oportunity.

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#10 Post by GJH » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:33 am

A few more to add...

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