Illinois "Hudson"???

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Illinois "Hudson"???

#1 Post by choatecav » Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:08 pm

Hello all,

I am brand new to this forum and relatively new to collecting pocket watches.

Today I added to my modest collection a beautiful 1877 Hunter case, key wind watch (18s). It is in a gorgeous 18k gold case and runs well.
My question is that when I look at the movement, in addition to the name and the serial number, the name "Hudson" is engraved in script. I cannot find anything about what the Hudson stands for.

Can anyone please tell me?

thanks
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Re: Illinois "Hudson"???

#2 Post by mrtoad » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:38 am

Sounds like a nice watch. This is likely to be what is called a "private label" watch. Illinois would prepare dials and sometimes also movements for jewelers who placed special orders; there are hundreds of such special names known.

Could you please post pictures of the dial and movement, as well as the case? We need to be able to read all the engraving on the movement, including the serial number, and the print on the dial. That will help in identification. Of course, we'd like to see the case, too.

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Re: Illinois "Hudson"???

#3 Post by choatecav » Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:07 am

I will try to post photos. Not sure what is happening but there is a trail on this in another portion of this forum and I was able to post photos there. I know I am screwing something up. thanks for reply.

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Re: Illinois "Hudson"???

#4 Post by choatecav » Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:37 am

My apologies. I was wrong on posting them on another portion of this site.... that was another site (NAWCC). :D

But, when I hit the "insert image" icon, it simply shows "img" but does not give me a place to browse and select.

technical ignorance is a terrible thing. :lol:

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Re: Illinois "Hudson"???

#5 Post by Magpie » Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:22 am

I hope someone here can help you upload your photos (sorry to say, I'm technologically challenged). I just went to the NAWCC forum to look at your pictures there. Unfortunately, I can't read what is written on the dial -- will you help me out by telling me what it says, please?

Illinois private labels are fascinating to study. Although his forthcoming new book on Illinois will focus on wristwatches, I understand that Fred Friedberg will include an appendix with a HUGE list of private labels for pocket watches -- probably the most comprehensive list yet -- including a bunch that are newly identified.

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Re: Illinois "Hudson"???

#6 Post by GJH » Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:31 pm

Please check your PM (private messages) for more info on photos.
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Re: Illinois "Hudson"???

#7 Post by choatecav » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:22 pm

Greg,
I appreciate the effort,

I will quietly just bow out and sorry to have caused any confusion.

Mark

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#8 Post by GJH » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:02 pm

Just email me the photos and I will be glad to post them for you.
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Re: Illinois "Hudson"???

#9 Post by HamiltonIllinois » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:45 am

My guess is that it might refer to either the Hudson Railroad or the Hudson Canal.

The company that became the Mohawk and Hudson Railroad was registered in 1826 -- its original goal was to compete against the Erie Canal, but it also hosted the first stream locomotive in the US -- the Dewitt Clinton. In the 1820s it was called the Delaware and Hudson Canal, before it became the M & H Railroad... and long before part of it was rolled into Conrail, CSX, and even partially into the Canadian Pacific Railway.
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Re: Illinois "Hudson"???

#10 Post by GJH » Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:42 am

Here they are
Just waiting for the caseback shots.

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