Vintage Watch Forums

Vintage Collector’s Site for Discussion
Home
Hamilton Watches for Sale
It is currently Sun Mar 26, 2017 1:19 am

All times are UTC - 8 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 39 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: WOYB - What is on Your Bench - Dec 2016
PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 4:03 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:42 am
Posts: 173
Apologies, not sure what happened to my picture from my first post.

Trim, your Dial-O-Rama is a looker. Thanks for the movt disassembled photo. It's great to see all the jump hour parts separated and laid out. My understanding is the movt. is a standard FHF model with the added jump hour train.

Movintage wrote:

Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WOYB - What is on Your Bench - Dec 2016
PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 7:22 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:42 am
Posts: 173
"Why do we fall down? So we can learn to pick ourselves back up"
I started this post with that quote because hopefully I've learned not to cut corners and rush. Because that's exactly what I did. When pressing the Dial-O-Rama movt/dial/crystal assembly into the case I cut a corner and didn't put the bottom support die into my press. What happened next was me kicking myself in the backside - a slip and a cracked crystal :cry:

I am greatful that I didn't damage the dial or movt. Now to try and find another replacement. Hopefully Esslinger has the GS crystal I need.
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WOYB - What is on Your Bench - Dec 2016
PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:37 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:03 pm
Posts: 279
Location: New Zealand
Movintage wrote:
Trim, your Dial-O-Rama is a looker. Thanks for the movt disassembled photo. It's great to see all the jump hour parts separated and laid out. My understanding is the movt. is a standard FHF model with the added jump hour train.


I suspect yours is nicer - looks like your star is much crisper than mine, which is a little faded.

As to the movement, you are correct. Do you have a copy of the service manual?

I think you can still find the original crystal on the bay - its unfortunate when things like that happen. I broke the minute hand for the L48 earlier in this thread, I needed to give it a little broaching, and was using a different hand holder to my usual one. Sadness followed.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WOYB - What is on Your Bench - Dec 2016
PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 10:04 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:42 am
Posts: 173
Trim, these are service manual pages I have. I hope you and all our forum colleagues find it useful.

Image

Image

Image

Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WOYB - What is on Your Bench - Dec 2016
PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 12:57 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:26 am
Posts: 1340
Location: NJ, USA
some of this weeks work.

'67 marlin - '74 Electric - '60 marlin ( UK Made)


Attachments:
DSC04128.JPG
DSC04128.JPG [ 113.69 KiB | Viewed 260 times ]

_________________
“Someday, and that day may never come, I’ll call upon you to do a service for me. But, until that day, accept this justice as a gift”
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WOYB - What is on Your Bench - Dec 2016
PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 5:34 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:40 pm
Posts: 1839
Well it's not on my bench. It's on my dining room table.
An old school clock I am servicing for a friend in the neighborhood.
Best part is he is paying me in firewood. I love the barder system.


Attachments:
IMG_2714.JPG
IMG_2714.JPG [ 1.55 MiB | Viewed 257 times ]
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WOYB - What is on Your Bench - Dec 2016
PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 7:07 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu May 15, 2014 4:22 am
Posts: 1969
Location: Melbourne, Australia
GS PA462-14

191733919239



Movintage wrote:
"Why do we fall down? So we can learn to pick ourselves back up"
I started this post with that quote because hopefully I've learned not to cut corners and rush. Because that's exactly what I did. When pressing the Dial-O-Rama movt/dial/crystal assembly into the case I cut a corner and didn't put the bottom support die into my press. What happened next was me kicking myself in the backside - a slip and a cracked crystal :cry:

I am greatful that I didn't damage the dial or movt. Now to try and find another replacement. Hopefully Esslinger has the GS crystal I need.
Image

_________________
Disruptive Elgin Collector.... 39.56043956043956
http://www.elgin.watch - Elgin Model Database
instagram @elgindownunder


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WOYB - What is on Your Bench - Dec 2016
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 2:53 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:42 am
Posts: 173
Thanks diveboy! I ordered two :oops:

diveboy wrote:
GS PA462-14

191733919239



Movintage wrote:
"Why do we fall down? So we can learn to pick ourselves back up"
I started this post with that quote because hopefully I've learned not to cut corners and rush. Because that's exactly what I did. When pressing the Dial-O-Rama movt/dial/crystal assembly into the case I cut a corner and didn't put the bottom support die into my press. What happened next was me kicking myself in the backside - a slip and a cracked crystal :cry:

I am greatful that I didn't damage the dial or movt. Now to try and find another replacement. Hopefully Esslinger has the GS crystal I need.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WOYB - What is on Your Bench - Dec 2016
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 3:50 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu May 15, 2014 4:22 am
Posts: 1969
Location: Melbourne, Australia
I've destroyed more crystals than I'll ever admit to :)

_________________
Disruptive Elgin Collector.... 39.56043956043956
http://www.elgin.watch - Elgin Model Database
instagram @elgindownunder


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WOYB - What is on Your Bench - Dec 2016
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:41 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:03 pm
Posts: 279
Location: New Zealand
diveboy wrote:
I've destroyed more crystals than I'll ever admit to :)


Oh yeah, and hands.... :shock:

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WOYB - What is on Your Bench - Dec 2016
PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:19 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:01 am
Posts: 592
Location: Here & There
Finished these up today.

From left to right:

18K Waltham w/ 14K band.
14K Gruen Nurses w/ center seconds.
18K Blancpain
14K Bulova
Bremen Nurses w/ base metal case.
14K Lord Elgin


Attachments:
PC130006.JPG
PC130006.JPG [ 689.59 KiB | Viewed 346 times ]

_________________
Adam
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WOYB - What is on Your Bench - Dec 2016
PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:39 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:40 pm
Posts: 1839
Ok Jersey mo.
Tell me what I have here. ;)
1962 timex 21?
Other than the round rub mark at the center of the dial from the dial being loose it's nice.
I got it running and I like that it actually has jewels.
It's a nice looking watch.


Attachments:
IMG_2735.JPG
IMG_2735.JPG [ 2.18 MiB | Viewed 336 times ]
IMG_2734.JPG
IMG_2734.JPG [ 1.67 MiB | Viewed 336 times ]
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WOYB - What is on Your Bench - Dec 2016
PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:42 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:40 pm
Posts: 1839
Assembled.


Attachments:
IMG_2736.JPG
IMG_2736.JPG [ 776.63 KiB | Viewed 336 times ]
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WOYB - What is on Your Bench - Dec 2016
PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:47 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:08 am
Posts: 1412
A hellacious mess is what's on my bench.

_________________
Real men wear small watches.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WOYB - What is on Your Bench - Dec 2016
PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:50 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:26 am
Posts: 1340
Location: NJ, USA
stryfox wrote:
Ok Jersey mo.
Tell me what I have here. ;)
1962 timex 21?
Other than the round rub mark at the center of the dial from the dial being loose it's nice.
I got it running and I like that it actually has jewels.
It's a nice looking watch.


100% correct - that is a 1962 "21 Jewels". The 21 series has the best technical specs of all vintage Timex movements.
Many collectors use them as replacement movements to install on the 600 ft diver series because they are more reliable.

_________________
“Someday, and that day may never come, I’ll call upon you to do a service for me. But, until that day, accept this justice as a gift”


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WOYB - What is on Your Bench - Dec 2016
PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:02 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:26 am
Posts: 1340
Location: NJ, USA
tonight I put together this one from NOS stock parts. Measuring in at 38.5 MM across the case it is one I never came across before.
The biggest challenge was having to customize a stem\crown to fit correctly. For those not familiar with Timex, the crowns are press fitted to the stem.
So replacing just the crown is not an option.

here is the breakdown:
NOS - #33 Movement
Used - Day Date Wheels
NOS - Case
NOS - Stem
NOS - Hands
Used - Case hold down clip
Used - Rotor and screws

I call it the "Classroom Clock". You know, just like the one you stared at all through HS just waiting for the bell to ring!


Attachments:
DSC04170.JPG
DSC04170.JPG [ 124.1 KiB | Viewed 289 times ]
DSC04165.JPG
DSC04165.JPG [ 293.43 KiB | Viewed 289 times ]
DSC04166.JPG
DSC04166.JPG [ 99.58 KiB | Viewed 289 times ]
DSC04167.JPG
DSC04167.JPG [ 309.77 KiB | Viewed 289 times ]
DSC04168.JPG
DSC04168.JPG [ 71.12 KiB | Viewed 289 times ]

_________________
“Someday, and that day may never come, I’ll call upon you to do a service for me. But, until that day, accept this justice as a gift”
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WOYB - What is on Your Bench - Dec 2016
PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:00 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:51 am
Posts: 21
JerseyMo wrote:
tonight I put together this one from NOS stock parts. Measuring in at 38.5 MM across the case it is one I never came across before.
The biggest challenge was having to customize a stem\crown to fit correctly. For those not familiar with Timex, the crowns are press fitted to the stem.
So replacing just the crown is not an option.

here is the breakdown:
NOS - #33 Movement
Used - Day Date Wheels
NOS - Case
NOS - Stem
NOS - Hands
Used - Case hold down clip
Used - Rotor and screws

I call it the "Classroom Clock". You know, just like the one you stared at all through HS just waiting for the bell to ring!


Very interesting case, I'm trying to visualize what it would look like with a strap or bracelet. Big shiny hunk of steel. Turned out really nice. Stem hacking, hmm? That's what seems to get me in trouble. I do, however, have an example where someone managed to fit a Benrus crown to a Timex stem. I have no idea how they managed it, but I sure did a double take when I first saw it!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WOYB - What is on Your Bench - Dec 2016
PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 12:31 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:26 am
Posts: 1340
Location: NJ, USA
Here is another one put together from NOS stock and a few used parts.


Attachments:
DSC04172.JPG
DSC04172.JPG [ 87.99 KiB | Viewed 272 times ]

_________________
“Someday, and that day may never come, I’ll call upon you to do a service for me. But, until that day, accept this justice as a gift”
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WOYB - What is on Your Bench - Dec 2016
PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2016 1:16 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:26 am
Posts: 1340
Location: NJ, USA
and one last NOS from Parts - 1970 Electric

NOS - Case
NOS - #40 Movement
New - Crystal
NOS Stem\Crown
Used - Case Back
Used - Minute and Sweep Hand.
NOS - Dial
New 357 battery.


Attachments:
DSC04174.JPG
DSC04174.JPG [ 101.57 KiB | Viewed 241 times ]

_________________
“Someday, and that day may never come, I’ll call upon you to do a service for me. But, until that day, accept this justice as a gift”
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WOYB - What is on Your Bench - Dec 2016
PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:00 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:51 am
Posts: 21
Another couple of winners, you must have a nice stash of parts. The dial came from one of the assortments?

Cheers!


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 39 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 8 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group
Terms of Service